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Specifically, 13th and 14th century music, religious and secular.

Date: 2013-10-26 06:30 am (UTC)
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I do not know any trobador songs that mention roses at all; and a quick look at Paden's Introduction to Old Occitan doesn't even have the word for rose in the glossary/cross-index. I don't think trobadors were really into roses. Can I interest you in a nice nightingale?

The song Maiden in the moor lay does not have any tune come down to us[*], but third verse has roses. Note: there is no canonical explication about what the song is about.

[* I know a tune for it that is not period, which I like.]

Likewise, here are two rosy minnesang the tunes to which I cannot find. Walter von der Vogelweide's classic "Under der Linden" has a rose appear in it briefly, and the rose is mentioned in Wizlaw von Rugen's "Loibere Risen [wicked pretty performance] as the classic comparison of the singer's beloved's cheeks. I gather minnesingers are just more into roses in general, but it's a big repertoire I don't know well and which lamentably doesn't make it across the Atlantic nearly as much as it should.

Ciconia flourished right at the end of the 14th century and into the first decade and a half of the 15th, and he wrote this O Rosa Bella. (Alas the "O Rosa Bella" previously attributed to Dunstable and thus potentially in your specified period has been reattributed to someone later. If you decide to creep forward, be sure to pick up Dufay's "Nuper Rosarum Flores" [1436].)

ETA: The protagonist of Volez vous que je vous chant [not a fan of any of the recording I could find, sorry] would like you to know that in addition to her shoes being made of flowers, three roses are planted on the back of her mule for shade when she rides, among other fanciful accessories.

Edited (After-market vehicle accessories.) Date: 2013-10-26 07:08 am (UTC)

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