Do you care that in that period (most?) references to roses will be about the rosa sine spina, Marie?
ETA: Also, do you want songs w/ passing references, or only ones substantially about roses?
At the moment the volume my iTunes library is on is involved in a protracted backup process, so I may have to come back to you question this evening.
In the meanwhile, you might want to hit up the Jongleurs' website. The Quire has one massive page with all the lyrics to almost everything they've sung (at least to ~2001 - don't know if updated) which makes it easy to do a search-within-page for terms like "rose" and "rosa". Everything is dated.
I do not know any trobador songs that mention roses at all; and a quick look at Paden's Introduction to Old Occitan doesn't even have the word for rose in the glossary/cross-index. I don't think trobadors were really into roses. Can I interest you in a nice nightingale?
The song Maiden in the moor lay does not have any tune come down to us[*], but third verse has roses. Note: there is no canonical explication about what the song is about.
[* I know a tune for it that is not period, which I like.]
Ciconia flourished right at the end of the 14th century and into the first decade and a half of the 15th, and he wrote this O Rosa Bella. (Alas the "O Rosa Bella" previously attributed to Dunstable and thus potentially in your specified period has been reattributed to someone later. If you decide to creep forward, be sure to pick up Dufay's "Nuper Rosarum Flores" [1436].)
ETA: The protagonist of Volez vous que je vous chant [not a fan of any of the recording I could find, sorry] would like you to know that in addition to her shoes being made of flowers, three roses are planted on the back of her mule for shade when she rides, among other fanciful accessories.
Edited (After-market vehicle accessories.) Date: 2013-10-26 07:08 am (UTC)
Thank you for the recommendations, the notes, and the links! I have indeed decided to creep a little forward, so thank you for those extras, also. I can now go through my day with my head full of roses.
Lovely recommendations and links, too: you are wonderful! Thank you! And thank you for pointing out that song out of period--I had heard it before and put it on my list of songs to look for.
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Date: 2013-10-25 04:45 pm (UTC)ETA: Also, do you want songs w/ passing references, or only ones substantially about roses?
At the moment the volume my iTunes library is on is involved in a protracted backup process, so I may have to come back to you question this evening.
In the meanwhile, you might want to hit up the Jongleurs' website. The Quire has one massive page with all the lyrics to almost everything they've sung (at least to ~2001 - don't know if updated) which makes it easy to do a search-within-page for terms like "rose" and "rosa". Everything is dated.
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Date: 2013-10-25 05:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-25 05:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-26 06:30 am (UTC)The song Maiden in the moor lay does not have any tune come down to us[*], but third verse has roses. Note: there is no canonical explication about what the song is about.
[* I know a tune for it that is not period, which I like.]
Likewise, here are two rosy minnesang the tunes to which I cannot find. Walter von der Vogelweide's classic "Under der Linden" has a rose appear in it briefly, and the rose is mentioned in Wizlaw von Rugen's "Loibere Risen [wicked pretty performance] as the classic comparison of the singer's beloved's cheeks. I gather minnesingers are just more into roses in general, but it's a big repertoire I don't know well and which lamentably doesn't make it across the Atlantic nearly as much as it should.
Ciconia flourished right at the end of the 14th century and into the first decade and a half of the 15th, and he wrote this O Rosa Bella. (Alas the "O Rosa Bella" previously attributed to Dunstable and thus potentially in your specified period has been reattributed to someone later. If you decide to creep forward, be sure to pick up Dufay's "Nuper Rosarum Flores" [1436].)
ETA: The protagonist of Volez vous que je vous chant [not a fan of any of the recording I could find, sorry] would like you to know that in addition to her shoes being made of flowers, three roses are planted on the back of her mule for shade when she rides, among other fanciful accessories.
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Date: 2013-10-26 10:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-26 03:14 am (UTC)Rose, liz, printemps, verdure (Guillaume de Machaut)
There is no rose of swych vertu (anonymous English, 15th c., so a little later than you technically want, but it's so beautiful)
Rosa das rosas (Alfonso X, Cantigas de Santa Maria)
Of a rose singe we (anonymous English, 15th century. Link goes to file download)
Nou shrinketh rose and lily flour (anon. English, 14th century. Link goes to file download)
En mai quant rosier sont flouri (Adam de la Halle)
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Date: 2013-10-26 10:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-26 09:52 pm (UTC)I'm glad you like the songs! I love medieval music and I love sharing it with others.