Date: 2012-02-21 06:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Hey Kes -- I don't know how, but someone that URL starts with the mobile Facebook page, and includes many password-like or cookie-like characters.

I no longer have a FB account. When I clicked it, I got a page that looked like "Official FB is Official" which warned me against sharing my password, and then one click took me to the recipe, whose URL starts here:

http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/texts/cooks/transcript839.html

Date: 2012-02-21 09:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Hardly TMI, in fact, that's a fabulous detailed grossness that some clever writer should include when bemoaning the health woes of the little 4-eyed himalayan leaf hoppers. (I was *really* drowsy and watching Nature.)

I imagine it's not the eyes, but the sockets, but pooh on rationality.

And WTF are you reacting to? I find one of the true joys of winter is LESS DUST! LESS POLLEN! LESS itchy sneezy cranky.

Now as to content!

Date: 2012-02-21 06:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Oh My God

What an amazing thing those recipes are! I'm understanding only 30%, but it's worth it. My favorite is "See that your livers bee not too much parboyled" as the introduction to a dessert recipe. How many livers? From what beaste? And did that cook actually get people to eat liver pudding? (Or maybe pudding didn't mean that then?)

Re: Now as to content!

Date: 2012-02-21 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] capri0mni
I think (about 85% sure -- maybe ?) that "pudding" originally meant:

"Some sort of starch, steamed or boiled together with some other sort of food, so that it thickens to a smooth, even, custard-like consistency." In our culture today, the "Some sort of starch" is most often corn starch, and the "other sort of food" is a sweet (chocolate, fruit, or spice) flavoring.

But back in the day, "Puddings" were more like what we think of as meatloaf -- they were a great way to extend the little scraps of meat from many sources (doesn't matter which beaste -- any and all of them) with flour and fat. Imagine putting the ingredients of a meatloaf into a linen bag made for the purpose, and suspending it in a giant pot over -- but not in -- the boiling water, and sticking a lid on top, so that it cooks thoroughly, and stays moist. Then, you bring to the table a near perfect half-sphere of a dish that everyone gets a slice of.

From Mother Goose:

Sing, sing. What shall I sing?
Cat's run away with the pudding bag string!

Do, do. What shall I do?
Cat's run away with the pudding bag, too!

Re: Now as to content!

Date: 2012-02-21 10:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Nursery-rhyme lyrics as forensic cookery! YAY!

What you said about the origins of pudding makes perfect sense. When it comes to the mediaeval, I think I'm going to be on another continent entirely, eating sushi.

Re: Now as to content!

Date: 2012-02-21 10:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] capri0mni
"Nursery-rhyme lyrics as forensic cookery!"

Actually, it's the other way around; as an English / Creative Writing major in college and grad school, I read a lot of Elizabethan and Victorian literature, and occasionally came across references to people having a grand supper with a pudding as the main dish. And a light bulb clicked on as I remembered the nursery rhyme from my childhood.

Here's a Wikipedia article about pudding, in general, with links to different kinds of puddings from around the world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pudding.

...And I am hungry, now. And have no pudding, either sweet or savory...

No... I have an almost pudding: the last chicken, rice, and bean burrito in my freezer. It may not be there an hour from now ;-)

Re: Now as to content!

Date: 2012-02-22 12:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] capri0mni
*nods* When I was in high school, we did a semester on Medieval history, and concluded with a role-play communal feast, with everyone dressing up in costumes (somewhat, not strictly, accurate), and having "period" food (ditto on the accuracy).

As a present that year, my mother bought me an illustrated history of medieval cooking, that had recipes in the back. I haven't had a chance to try them, but several are on my "Ooh, that sounds good!" list -- like baked pears stuffed with figs and red lentils, and spiced with ginger, etc.. Of course, I absolutely love spicy food, and sweet & heat & savory combinations will win me over almost every time.

But if your palette and stomach are more attuned to the milder end of the flavor spectrum, a lot of medieval and Renaissance food would probably put you off.

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